Comments on: Apple releases Safari 3 Beta

By: Oyunlar

Oyunlar — Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:05:53 +0000

I rather Google Chrome.

By: Burçlar

Burçlar — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:02:57 +0000

Excellent! Thank you

By: Ibrahim

Ibrahim — Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:49:26 +0000

Charlie: if you download the Java plugin from Sun Microsystems I think you got it!!!

By: Alan Gale

Alan Gale — Sat, 23 Jun 2007 02:47:56 +0000

I mentioned in a previous message (26) that I was unable to get the beta release of Safari to work with Windows XP Pro, as it wouldn’t display any of the text, and just showed blank menus. I’m pleased to say that release 3.02 has now cured this problem, and so far it seems to be working normally, though it remains to be seen if any other problems come to light, and I’ll hopefully be giving it a thorough test drive in the next few days.

It’s very nice to see that Apple are getting to grips with these problems, and that helps to greatly increase my confidence in their abilities. Anyone else having had this problem might like to try the new version as well, and see if it works for them as well.

Just one complaint though, the Safari webpage suggested that users use the bug button in the browser to report any bugs, but if you can’t see that link because the text isn’t working then you can’t easily report it direct to them. I made my grumbles via this page, but a box on the Safari page for reporting such things would have been helpful. I think this will be a great browser by the time it reaches its alpha stage anyway, Apple programs always look really nice when finished, so I’m happy to persevere with the beta versions!:-)

Thanks to Gustaaf and everyone for their very helpful comments.

By: dobono

dobono — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:25:27 +0000

“Nice for Apple to do this, but I wish they would of made it work with Windows 2000 also.”
It does, although it’s not written.
But it works as bad as in win xp.
Forget about this alpha version, get back in 6 months, maybe. :D

By: Gustaaf Groenendaal

Gustaaf Groenendaal — Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:42:27 +0000

The missing text issue should be fixed now. It should be rendering appropriate with a new WebKit nightly.

By: Peter Gasston

Peter Gasston — Sat, 16 Jun 2007 09:46:45 +0000

@Covarr – I agree with you on that, it doesn’t integrate with Windows at all. And remember the complaints from Apple users when Firefox launched, that it looked like a Windows app and didn’t intergrate with OS X??? It’s still a beta, so hopefully it will be improved before launch.

By: Alan Gale

Alan Gale — Sat, 16 Jun 2007 02:36:45 +0000

I installed a copy on a machine with Windows XP Home and it worked fine, but when I install it my PC, which is running XP Pro no text appears on the buttons, and the menus are all blank. Other XP Pro users have told me that they’ve noticed exactly the same problems.

I hope this fix this on the next beta release, it looks good, but it’s obviously very buggy, and go anywhere near eBay running this browser and they add a warning notice suggesting you upgrade to Firefox (which I’m already running, and thankfully does work fine and show all of its menus!).

By: Covarr

Covarr — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:49:53 +0000

I know about that option, but it’s still not as good, in my opinion, as either turning off font smoothing entirely or using ClearType. I can understand Apple’s decision to use their own font smoothing engine, since they had it available already, but the fact of the matter is that any computer user is probably going to be used to his own system’s default, and Apple ought to respect that.

This article explains the key differences between Apple’s font smoothing and ClearType pretty well:
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2007/06/12.html

By: Peter Gasston

Peter Gasston — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:14:48 +0000

@Covarr: I haven’t tried it out myself, but I read somewhere that there is an option to reduce the amount of smoothing so the fonts don’t look so blurry. Also, border-radius is much improved in the Firefox 3 pre-Alphas, as they’re now using a new graphics layer (Cairo).