Comments on: Meyer and Resig on CSS3

By: jive

jive — Wed, 13 May 2009 20:00:51 +0000

CSS tables are no where near as bloated as HTML TABLE layouts. Somethings will still make sense to be in lists or H# tags. It’s just another tool to get things done.

By: Thomas Thomassen

Thomas Thomassen — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:01:42 +0000

Nothing wrong with table layout. Table markup for the sake of layout on the other hand, that’s something completely different.
“It’s a series of boxes in rows and columns. It’s NOT good enough.” What’s wrong with positioning layout elements in rows and boxes? It’s been one in traditional prints since… ever. The difference here is that the ‘table’ is defined within the CSS, not in the HTML so you don’t get semantic noise.

By: David

David — Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:31:52 +0000

@Matt Wilcox:
I don’t understand. What wrong with table layout ?
What do designers need ? Do you know other layout mechanisms that would bring such a flexibility ?

By: Neal G

Neal G — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:42:10 +0000

Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe one big downfall of the css table-layout is in order to have a column on the right, it needs to occur after the left column in the source code, whereas with floats the source order matters a bit less (and with absolute positioning, it doesn’t matter at all)

By: Stifu

Stifu — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:16:41 +0000

I don’t think it’s such a great idea to post your e-mail address publicly like that, unless you like spam. :p

By: James Hopkins

James Hopkins — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 22:33:48 +0000

Hi Lrbabe,

Thanks for letting us know – I’ve emailed the webmaster, so it should be up fairly soon. Or if it’s urgent, you can send it to me at james@css3.info and I can forward it on to the relevant people.

By: lrbabe

lrbabe — Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:10:11 +0000

Off-topic, but where is the contact form gone?
I want to contact you guys!

By: Ray Drainville

Ray Drainville — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:15:23 +0000

@Matt, the table layout model isn’t inherently bad–don’t get caught up in all the examples where the classes are called ‘cell’ & whatnot. There’s a lot there that can be used fruitfully, although I fear that ‘Everything You Know About CSS is Wrong” (and all the related promo articles making their way to the net) take it way too far. I wouldn’t base all sorts of elements on it, for example, but for basic things like #sidebar & #content, it wouldn’t be at all inappropriate.

There are some other advanced layout options on the [incredibly distant] horizon, like the grid & template layout modules.

By: Matt Wilcox

Matt Wilcox — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:24:07 +0000

Yes, but the layout that those chunks are being put into is a table layout. It’s a series of boxes in rows and columns. It’s NOT good enough.

By: Peter Gasston

Peter Gasston — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:14:29 +0000

“It does nothing other than bring back table-layout” – the advanced layout module allows for layouts which are much more complex than those which are available with tables. It should allow for same-height blocks, and for you to place elements out of order in the DOM, such as moving the footer below the h2 (examples given in your article).

We’d have to see it in action before its real strengths and weaknesses can be assessed, however.