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200830 Jan
Ian Hickson, the Google employee tasked with creating the next generation of acid test, has completed his work, which is now available for public consumption at its new home, acidtests.org. Unlike the first acid test, which focused on the box model, and the second acid test, which covered a broad variety of basic HTML and CSS features, Acid3 covers 100 of the nooks and crannies of HTTP, HTML, CSS, ECMAScript, SVG and XML, all through the medium of DOM scripting, a critical requirement for any modern web application. Ian Hickson is also the primary author of the HTML5 specification, which started life as a spec. called ‘Web Apps 1.0’, and as such has lots of application‐related features such as client‐side storage and enhanced forms. Ian wrote 64 of the tests, with the remaining 36 being submitted by both browser vendors and interested web developers.
Work started on the new acid test almost as soon as the IE developer team posted notification that IE8 passes Acid2. As was widely criticised around the ’net recently, it was revealed Internet Explorer 8 would now only pass the test if the server was modified to output a special HTTP header. It is not known to css3.info at this time whether the header would be required for IE8 to achieve compliance in the new test.
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Firefox 2 got to 50/100 with some strange graphics, Safari 3 (Windows) made it to 40/100; IE6 just sat there looking at me rather dumbly.
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iLMOL says:Comment » January 30th, 2008 at 2:53 am
has it been officiallly released? i don’t see announcement in ian’s blog or any other places. i know ian was challenging several more tests about 2 weeks ago but didn’t know it was all set and done
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Ian commented that it was done in an IRC chat room about 4 hours ago, I expect an official announcement to be made within 24 hours. The most recent WebKit nightly gets 64%, a significant improvement on the released Safari 3 (which gets 40% on the Mac side too).
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Lars says:Comment » January 30th, 2008 at 3:42 am
This race should be interesting to watch :)
Just to add to current results posting…
Opera 9.25 gets 48/100.
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Trn says:Comment » January 30th, 2008 at 4:10 am
Strangely, loading the test in a background tab in Firefox 3 (2008012704) gives me 58, whereas loading in the foreground gives me 60.
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Actually work started months before Microsoft announced IE8 passed Acid2. I just got more motivation to work on it after the announcement.
Right now the test is in review mode. It’ll probably stay that way for some time (weeks, if I have my way).
I’m not really sure how you came up with the 64/34 number, either. :-) It’s more like 90/10, though people helped throughout.
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Joey says:Comment » January 30th, 2008 at 7:31 am
@Peter: I don’t know what you did you your IE 6 at “Staring Dumbly”, but at a default XP SP 2 with full non-IE 7 updates, I’m at 13/100
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[…] Acid3 completed. 50/100 for Firefox 2. […]
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here are my results:
IE6 13/100 – quite poor
Safari for win 3.0.4 – 40/100 – I expected more from Safari honestly
Firefox 2.0.0.11 – 51/100 – thats the winner?wonder how Firefox 3 will do this one?
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Rowan says:Comment » January 30th, 2008 at 10:03 am
Earlier today on Windows XP with Fx 3: 57
Now on Windows Vista with Fx 3: 59I wonder how IE8 would do in ‘IE8 mode’.
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Strange to hear of these seemingly erratic results… how will we know how the browsers really fare?
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Regarding the 64/36 number: Tests number 65 and onwards are commented in a way that lead me to believe they were sourced from a competition for contributions. I see now that not all are attributed to third parties. My apologies.
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Vincent de Phily says:Comment » January 30th, 2008 at 11:36 am
Seemingly erratic indeed :/ I get slightly different scores from other people on the same browser, and sometimes a different score when running the test repeatedly.
What could be the reason, some kind of AJAX race condition ? Some environement variable changing even though you’re supposed to be at default settings ? Hope this gets sorted out, we can’t afford randomness in the test. I guess now’s the time to review the test’s code…
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Ariel says:Comment » January 30th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
The HTML Validator addon for mozilla at: http://users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/
Shows a number of warnings for the page (from HTML tidy I believe).
First you are missing the type attribute for the stylesheet – the comment makes me think this was deliberate?
The rest of the errors look like they are from the backslash in the src for one of the script tags. Is that really illegal?? Or does the validator have a bug?
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OS X – WebKit nightly (5523.10.6) – Safari Version 3.0.4
65/100
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Using the latest nightly build of Firefox 3 (Minefield) i get 57/100 over four tries.
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[…] CSSInfo No Tags […]
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Jonas says:Comment » January 30th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
Yes, Firefox 3 Beta 2 also got 57 over four tries, from 54 on the first try. On try 5, it dropped to 56. *shrug*
Why do new tries give different results!?
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Trn says:Comment » January 30th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Seems like the problem have been fixed now?
Using Fx3 (2008012904); over 25 tries I got 61% 23 times, and 60% 2 times at the 4th and 18th try.Also Opera 9.24 now gives me 48% instead of 50% like it was before, IE7 still gives me 13%.
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Roberto says:Comment » January 30th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Ariel: I suppose ACID3 works the in similar way as ACID2 does. Among other things, ACID2 contains deliberate errors to find out how the browsers behave in that situations.
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Michael Johnson says:Comment » January 30th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
Opera 9.5 build 9755 on WinXP (most recent, I believe) gives 60/100, agreeing with Lars.
I can’t test Opera 9.24 since I don’t have a default install :) FWII, I get 46/100, not 48, but I imagine that part of that is the fact that I have UserJS that modifies the DOM.
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Konqueror 3.5.8 on latest Ubuntu Linux 7.10 loads the page, then crashes after a split second (attempted several times). I was curious about Konqueror, because it is the only browser I’ve tried that passes all selectors at CSS3.info’s CSS Selector Test.
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xsys says:Comment » January 30th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
I wonder how Ian Hickson could know how it should look when test is passed…
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Adam Luter says:Comment » January 30th, 2008 at 6:59 pm
Randomness in the test results do not necessarily mean that the test itself is to blame, but rather that the test is exposing problems in the implementations.
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[…] Hixie’s Natural Log: Come up with the best test for Acid3 Edit: Strike that, Acid3 has been completed. […]
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[…] Ian Hickson завершил работу над созданием следующей версии acid-теста (Acid 3) […]
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Browsers were probably getting different results yesterday because I was still fixing problems in the test throughout the day.
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[…] parecer, el test ACID3 esta listo. Se publico hoy que Ian Hickson, ya tiene listo el test ACID3. Este test prueba capacidades que aun no están […]
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QUE VENHA O ACID3 TEST » Pinceladas da Web - Reflexões sobre XHTML, CSS, PHP e WebStandards says:Comment » January 31st, 2008 at 9:59 am
[…] CSS3.info – Acid3 browser test completed, available now […]
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Opera 9.50.9500.0 gets to 40 then crashes.
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Daniel Luz says:Comment » January 31st, 2008 at 3:45 pm
xsys, there isn’t much magic in this reference implementation: most of the test is easily reproducible using widely-supported (and valid) CSS2. For example, the text-shadow test is very simple, with no blur radius.
I guess they had tougher problems guaranteeing Acid2’s reference implementation.
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[…] CSS3.INFO Tags: acid2, acid3, browser, Internet, standards, test No Comments, Comment or […]
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@Ian –
While an above commenter may have been joking, I was curious as to how you know how a page should actually render your test if the leading browsers all fail (pretty miserably). I know that you conceptually know what each element is supposed to do, but how do you review your test with the shortcomings of browser engines?
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There’s a couple of techniques. One is to start with something that is simple, and easy to determine the correct handling of, and then incrementally make it more complex, updating the reference rendering at the same time. The other is to do something really complicated, and then make a separate version of the test that works around all the bugs in one browser, and then take a screenshot of that browser. I use a mix of both.
It also helps to have a really good grasp of what the standards require. :-)
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VS Christopher says:Comment » January 31st, 2008 at 10:23 pm
this is the strictest test available. No browser passed it .:D
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I’m very glad this includes SVG tests, as SVG needs and deserves more attention. That also means IE will end up having to support SVG if they want to brag about passing the Acid3 test, like they did for Acid2.
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Teknoloji Haberleri » Blog Archive » acid 3 testi hazır says:Comment » February 1st, 2008 at 11:54 am
[…] Buradaki haberden öğrendiğimize göre web tarayıcıların standartlara uyumluluğunu denetleyen acid testlerinin üçüncüsü hazır.acid testleri, tarayıcıların standartlara uyumluluğunu test etmekte önemli bir kriter sayılıyor. Örneğin Microsoft, Internet Explorer 8′in standartlara ne kadar uygun olacağını duyurmak için tarayıcısının acid 2 testini geçtiğini müjdelemişti. […]
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CSS Collection » Blog Archive » Acid3 Browser Test Available says:Comment » February 5th, 2008 at 5:29 am
[…] Acid3 browser test available from new Web site, acidtests.org. Acid3 addresses HTML, CSS, HTTP, ECMAScript, XML, and SVG through DOM scripting. […]
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This is what I found:
Opera Stable (9.25): 46/100
Opera 9.5b1: 59/100
Firefox Stable (2.0.0.11): 50/100
Firefox 3.0b2pre: 54/100
Konqueror Stable (3.5.8): Seg faults
Konqueror 4.0.1 (Using KDE 4.0.1): 49/100Take the results as you wish.
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mpz says:Comment » February 6th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Latest Webkit nightly on Windows gets 72/100 already! Woot!
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[…] Acid3 browser test available from new Web site, acidtests.org. Acid3 addresses HTML, CSS, HTTP, ECMAScript, XML, and SVG through DOM scripting. […]
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solipsism says:Comment » February 10th, 2008 at 9:02 am
WebKit r30109 nightly on Mac OS X gets 78/100 already! That about 20 more than it had when Acid3 became available.
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Nowhere near as impressive as Webkit’s result, but Firefox got up to 61/100 with today’s nightly. :p
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The IE team must be pretty annoyed… “Man, we just finished work on acid2 and now this!! Give us a break!”
Gotta love how the other browsers just speed ahead and … *fix* things.
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Sexta-feira dos Web Standards #13 · project.47 - Portfolio e blog sobre Web Standards says:Comment » February 15th, 2008 at 4:05 am
[…] The Acid3 Test – P�gina do Acid3, teste destinado a medir o n�vel de compreendimento do CSS3 por parte dos browsers. Vale ressaltar que os browsers atuais ainda est�o chegando nos 100% do Acid2… Resta esperar para ver quanto tempo demorar� at� que atinjam essa marca no Acid3. […]
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